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Hi Trevor I completely agree with your comments and perhaps raising this subject might trigger a positive response from some of our valued Members, I joined to be part of the Honda CRV Family and to take part in the discussions relevant to Honda CRV's and to seek advice and hopefully assist other Members if I were able to and always appreciate any replies received , by looking at the forum and the scarce number of actual replies to Members queries it does seem fruitless sometimes even asking for assistance. I have no idea how this can be improved but I think it should be looked at, Thanks again Trevor for your grateful reply to this topic. Barrie RN 1